Monday, June 7, 2010

Obama: Citizenship Checkmate?

By EricaThunderpaws

Since Obama wants to play cat and mouse games with the American public, I may as well join the game by offering up another theory for journalists, biographers, and historians to consider. 

Barack Obama's personal life is not an open book, in large part because the man deliberately keeps many details under lock and key.  There are a number of questions he prefers to leave unanswered, such as:  was he adopted by his Indonesian stepfather; who funded his college education; what were his grades in school; what scholarships if any did he receive; what kind of visas did he acquire; what passport(s) did he use as a child, a teenager and an adult; what's the name of the doctor who delivered him and in which hospital; was he really born in Hawaii or elsewhere?  (Sorry, the COLB doesn't answer the latter questions.) To ensure that all of these questions and many more remain unanswered, Barack Obama has paid massive sums of taxpayer money to his lawyers, and perhaps to others, to keep a lid on certain areas of his life's story.  Why? Why? Why?

I don't know the answers, but my gut instinct tells me that a person with nothing to hide would never go to these lengths to keep the public he claims to serve in the dark over mundane questions such as these.  His behavior does nothing to build trust.  His declining poll numbers certainly indicate he is losing popularity. 

Here's how the game works.  Let's assume just for the sake of argument that Obama fails, not only the "natural born Citizen" test, but also the citizen test.  (In case you didn't know, there is a difference in definitions.)  Let's also assume that as a young man, Obama didn't necessarily want to become an American citizen, but he did want to milk America for its lifestyle, perks, privileges, and maybe even a little bit of fame.  How could he achieve those goals, yet retain his foreign citizenship (wherever that might be)?  It's relatively easy -- obtain a green card.  Assuming the above scenario were true, there are two typical ways Obama could have acquired a green card:
(1) by asking an employer to sponsor his application; or (2) by marrying Michelle, an American citizen, and requesting an Adjustment of Status using form i-485.  Be sure to click those links to understand the process.

Obama was hired for his first job in 1991 after graduating from Harvard, and several other jobs followed or overlapped.  Any of these employers could have agreed to sponsor Obama if they were motivated enough to put his services to work for the entity.  Barack also married Michelle in 1992.  According to a Wikipedia bio:
In 1991, Obama accepted a two-year position as Visiting Law and Government Fellow at the University of Chicago Law School to work on his first book.[42] He then served as a professor at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years—as a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996, and as a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004—teaching constitutional law.[43]
From April to October 1992, Obama directed Illinois's Project Vote, a voter registration drive with ten staffers and seven hundred volunteer registrars; it achieved its goal of registering 150,000 of 400,000 unregistered African Americans in the state, and led to Crain's Chicago Business naming Obama to its 1993 list of "40 under Forty" powers to be.[44] In 1993 he joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a 13-attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development, where he was an associate for three years from 1993 to 1996, then of counsel from 1996 to 2004, with his law license becoming inactive in 2002.[45]
From 1994 to 2002, Obama served on the boards of directors of the Woods Fund of Chicago, which in 1985 had been the first foundation to fund the Developing Communities Project, and of the Joyce Foundation.[30] He served on the board of directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge from 1995 to 2002, as founding president and chairman of the board of directors from 1995 to 1999.[30]
If an employer was motivated to hire Obama, was it because of his purported "brilliance," his narcissistic malleability, his radical politics, his affirmative action qualifications, and/or a promise of significant financial, political, or other reward to the institution for hiring him?  If Obama was foreign born, or lost his citizenship through adoption, and an employer felt motivated to sponsor him so that he could obtain a green card, there would have been a number of faculty, administrators, and/or staff members involved in filing the government paperwork.  If such people exist, can anyone find them? 

As for Barack's marriage to Michelle, it is impossible to discern whether he might have wed her for love or for a green card, again assuming the above scenarios were fact.  Certainly, he now has a wife who "seems" devoted to him, and two lovely daughters.  As I recall, though, Bill and Hillary Clinton were "secretly" photographed while dancing together on a private beach.  In truth, this was an orchestrated PR campaign to make them "seem" a happy couple.  The media, and the Clintons, were playing the public for fools.  Thus, it isn't necessarily a good idea to trust the sugar-coated family pictures we see of the Obamas, in part because some rumors about Barack's predilections still persist.

Just wanted to give JR readers something new to think about, and possibly to investigate.

Chess, anyone?

17 comments:

  1. Hate knows no bounds -- but why don't you apply those same questions to anyone else you know of in your life.

    If you have a spouse -- can you name the doctor and hospital they were born in? How about your own mother or father -- do you know their doctor's names? Heck, have you ever seen your parent's birth certificates? Are you sure they're not faked?

    Now let's move on to the other public officials in your life -- have you seen the birth certifcate of your governor, your mayor, your senator? How do you know that they didn't marry to obtain a green card? By the way, green cards are monitored by ICE.

    I think it's unlikely his stepfather paid for his college as Ann was already divorced from him. For an interesting read -- why not actually read his biography -- and come up with some new bogus theories.

    Mark Penn (of Hillary's campaign) was the one who said that they needed to make Obama seem foreign and scary. They've succeeded -- only too well.

    If Joe Biden were president, do you think that half the scary emails would be circulating or that Fox would have organized/promoted Tea Party events around the country, or that Glenn Beck would be doing his very convincing Hour of Doom show (and making a killing on the gold sales, survival seeds, etc)? The level of hate and disrespect that this president has been shown when the worst thing he's done so far evidently is to support health INSURANCE reform--no invasions of countries who did not attack us, no warrantless wiretapping. On his worst days, President Bush didn't have to put up with a tenth of what this president has gone through. Whether it's Fox radio and TV constantly calling him names that are meant to scare and push buttons with folks like you (socialist, fascist, marxist, etc.) Frankly, I think that people like you and Fox News won't be happy until some nutjob believes enough of this crap and kills President Obama. Death threats are coming in at an unbelievable rate -- and it's because people like you live in a fact-free universe.

    Oh-- have you seen Joe's birth certificate?

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  2. ThinkFirst,

    Your arguments show little thought. The odds are Erica doesn't know anyone but Soetoro (aka Obama) who desire to hold the US presidency and who have admitted to not being natural born US citizens. The questions raised by Erica, thus, only apply to Soetoro (aka Obama).

    Why would Soetoro's (aka Obama's) autobiography (written by fellow revolutionary, Bill Ayres) provide any useful information that Soetoro (aka Obama) is paying dearly to keep under wraps?

    No one in Hillary's campaign needed to make Soetoro (aka Obama) foreign and scary; his parents made him foreign (as he has freely admitted being born with UKC citizenship), his mother raised him in a scary, marxist-saturated setting, he openly espoused his adherence to marxism at Occidental College, he wracked up the most leftist voting record during his part-time job as a US Senator, and his behavior as US Resident of the White House has been consistent with marxist ideology.

    No one is questioning Joe Biden's natural-born citizenship status, but I agree with you about one thing -- every candidate for US president or vice president should have to submit proof of constitutional qualification for office before being placed on any ballot for such offices. It would be painless and inexpensive to do so, and it would ensure compliance with the law.

    Unfortunately, we are no longer a nation of laws; we are an oligarchy of elitist liberals who control the populace with an overwhelming volume of laws, then pick and choose which laws to apply and to whom they apply as fits their goals at any given time.

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  3. Wakeisha MaaloufJune 8, 2010 at 5:18 AM

    So...why do YOU think that Obama is paying money to keep things hidden? This would all go away if he did not put up such an effort to keep it all hidden. You are obviously one who has to be spoon fed and believe the media. Sad. One should use the brain they are given and when you see smoke you investigate the source as there darn well may be a fire. If it were you , I suppose you would just walk away. Useful idiot. There is no President that has been as disrespectful as this one to the very people he purports to serve. Respect is earned not a given. The last thing that anyone who is very concerned with the VERY definite socialist bend of this poor excuse for a leader wants, is for him to be murdered. That would cause him ( in ted kennedy's words) to "... be idealized, or enlarged in death beyond what he was in life". "Death threats are coming at an unbelievable rate"? Where did you get that info? Fact free universe you must live in. I think you need to think about why you cling to a fellow who will throw you off the life raft the second it is an opportunity for him. Oh I forgot...you don't believe in thinking. Lamb waiting for the slaughter.

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  4. queen to kings bishop 3 oh and he is an illegal alien and should be deported, after serving many years in prison for treason against the United States. Personally I would shoot him but then our country is much to humane for that. And that in itself is a large part of our problem.

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  5. I am taking a poll.... (?), [1]...

    "Is the 'definition, meaning and intent of the Constitutional 'idiom' of natural born citizen found at A2S1C5 a "Political Question' or a Citizenship Question'?"

    (?), [2]... With the US Constitutional form of government meant to be a 'Representative Republic', from what groups of peoples were the 'Representative' meant to be 'selected/elected from?

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  6. Oh but yes it does. spouse, yes I know the name of doctor and hospital, mother and father. Yes I have their BC and they are real and I know about them. governor, mayor, senator. because I pay attention to what they do. They answer questions to me before I will vote for them. It would appear that many more Americans are taking up this same attitude. Read his biography, I have and by the time you finish that if you don't want to wring his neck then your not American. By that stage it is pretty clear who paid for his college and pushed and set him into politics, and for a specific reason that he is doing his best to fulfill. I will have to give him that much. The worst thing he has done so far is support health care. How damn stupid are you. The worst thing he has done would be a really hard decision to make, but lets start with the facts around the health care. One of the main promises he made in the campaign was that there would be no more of the backroom deals and that all bills would be presented transparently, and that every bill would be posted on the internet for review by the people for a minimum of a week before he would sign it, and that he would be open to suggestions from the public. The health care bill was objected to by the people clearly and repeatedly, problem was the more the people objected to the bill the harder they fought to ensure that it passed. They added even more crap to it and then passed it in the middle of the night after many threats and back room deals. passed late at night on a Sunday and it was signed into law on monday morning before almost any people were out of bed. And that was when it still had to go back to the house and then he had to sign it again for real after the house passed it. How stupid, and blatantly arrogant of him. I don't think that there was a single campaign promise left unbroken after that weekend. If biden were president. he would either act as a president should or he would have been impeached, recalled or shot. The reason these people (great Americans)are presently dealing out the abuse to poor obummer is due to the fact that they know who he is and are taking measures to put a stop to his agenda. And you sir are the one who is in a fact free universe. There are plenty of facts out there and if you pay some attention to them, what obummer is up to would scare the hell out of you unless you have bought a ticket to be in the stands at the coliseum when and IF Obummer succeeds in implementing his agenda, so you can watch the poor white folk eaten by the bears and lions. Nope haven't seen Joes birth certificate, Kinda like Obummer I assumed that those in charge of ensuring these conditions had been met took care of their jobs. That is why all imcumbents are loosing their jobs. Many should have stood firm on this matter until it was proven clearly, and they did not. In my personal opinion not only should they be voted out of office but should be charged with conspiracy to commit treason. (and actually since we are at war a conviction carries a death sentence). It will pretty much get all straightened out soon. The American people are awake to what is going on now and are mad as hell and are not going to put up with any more of what has been going on for way too long. We are going back to common sense interperation of the constitution and reducing size of government and doing it in a manner according to the wishes of the American People NOT in despite of their wishes. Any other question Think. Maybe you should think first. Also maybe you should try studying on the subject some before speaking out and making an ass out of yourself again. Try You tube Adrian Salbuchi, or Alex Jones. There is a lot of good information there. well documented and compiled. A lot of work went into these studies and many many people need to study this and learn something from them so in a worst case scenario they will not be caught so far off guard.

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  7. Surely, one wouldn't think Mr. O'Bama would lie about his Irish heritage???

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  8. Obama used a US passport throughout his life. He never had a foreign passport. He received his first US passport when he went from Hawaii to Indonesia with his mother and used the same one to return and to go to Pakistan (which was never on any "no travel list" by the way). He certainly did not have an Indonesian passport because he ws never an Indonesian citizen, which a call to the Indonesian embassy can confirm.

    Obama was born in Hawaii as his official birth certificate from Hawaii shows, and the fact that he was born in Hawaii was confirmed by the officials in Hawaii and by the governor of Hawaii, and by this witness (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2170432/posts), and by Obama's Kenyan grandmother, who repeatedly said that he was born in Hawaii and in a separate interview said that the first that her family heard about the birth was in a letter from Hawaii received many months after the birth.

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  9. To GoldEye
    If you had bothered to read further in the link you provided, you would have found ample evidence that this supposed "witness" doesn't fit the known facts. If you check the following link, http://www.earthfrisk.com/blog/?p=135 you'll see that there is ample reason to question Obama's citizenship. That being said, I don't buy the green card theory - if he had a green card, he would have a single, valid SSN, instead of the multiple ones he has used. His current SSN was issued in CT to someone born in 1890!

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  10. Browneye: Where's the certificate?

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  11. GoldEye,
    You make these statements unequivocally, as if you have personal knowledge of their veracity. Either that, or you are easily duped. What is your evidence, other than heresay in an article that no longer exists on Buffalo News, not even in its archives. Furthermore, WND personally interviewed Barbara Nelson, and got a somewhat different story. See http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=87233

    Your post very much resembles the obot comments of smrstrauss, whom I exposed in this article:
    http://jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com/2010/03/smrstrauss-total-reveal-their-tangled.html

    When these people post, they now use an anonymous ip address, just like you. I will keep an eye on your future comments to see if smrstrauss has morphed into GoldEye.

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  12. Another document that might "speak volumes": did BHO obtain an Illinois Driver's License? I've only ever seen a picture of him in Chicago riding a bicycle. Before the 2008 Presidential Election his campaign scurried to pay off parking tickets dating back to his days at Harvard Law School in Cambridge MA. Was his rush to make nice with the Cambridge Police Dept. after the Prof Skip Gates "affair" last summer a bid to quiet a possible leak of any police files that the CPD might still have lying around. This could be a key to opening the whole record to scrutiny.

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  13. yes, I have seen my husband's and parents' birth certificates and I do know what hospitals they were born in and who their doctors were. My husband because he came here as a foreign national and we both had to present our long form BCs in order to make him a US resident. My mother as a state employess had to do the same and my father as a member of the military.
    No other president has ever had such a murky past, with all thier records, sicne kindergarten suppressed.

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  14. Why are we not allowed to see the Usurper's passport? and why was the last person w/ inside knowledge of it murdered? If he traveled to Pakistan on a British passport (very possible , since Pakistan was a Commonwealth Country once, and it certainly would have been easier to travel) then he may be a British subject to this day, having declared allegiance at the age of majority in 1981 (which he could have done until 1983 according to the BNA 1981, which replaced BNA 1948).
    Yes Erica, smrstrauss (however many of him/her there are) is using other ids, as I have encountered very similar responses, verbatum to the obfuscations of smrstrauss, at other websites fairly recently.

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  15. Obama ISN"T paying money to keep things hidden. He has already posted the official birth certificate of Hawaii, and the facts on it were confirmed by the officials in Hawaii and the governor of Hawaii.

    There were and are no lawsuits against Obama for his birth certificate. If there were, he would simply show his Certification of Live Birth, which would be accepted by any court. The lawsuits against Obama were mainly to stop the election, stop the vote by the Electoral College, stop the certification of the election by Congress or stop the Inauguration. In our country you have to defend against lawsuits, no matter how stupid they are.

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  16. BlueOhio,

    With all due respect, he most certainly is paying to keep things hidden. You are either poorly informed, easy to fool, or you are a an obot attempting disinformation. Look at my comment below where I reply to GoldEye. You should also read these:
    5/10/10: Obama waives ethics rules for eligibility lawyer
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=152177

    10/27/09 : Obama law tab up to $1.7 million
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=114202

    Info about Kerchner vs Obama et al lawsuit
    http://puzo1.blogspot.com

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=95772
    Finally:
    Complete archive of news reports on the eligibility issue
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=98546

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  17. Yep, exposed! obamobot... I have read the exact same post... word for word, in other blogs

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