Sunday, August 29, 2010

Dr. David Ramsay Defined Natural Born Citizens In 1789

First and foremost, a hat tip goes to UndeadRevolution for being the first university historians to locate David Ramsay's 1789 Dissertation on the nature of citizenship, which you will be able to read in its entirety below. The title links to the original document, which UR published on Scribd.

Below the link is an embedded copy of my "translation" of the original. In the original document, the letter "s" resembles today's letter "f", so I have removed that visual stumbling block by retyping the entire document. In addition, I have colored key sentences within the document, such as the one below. Note the use of plural parentage.  Both parents must be citizens for the child to be defined as "natural born".  Interestingly, in the dissertation Ramsay also discusses the "precision" of language used in the Constitution.
The citizenship of no man could be previous to the declaration of independence, and, as a natural right, belongs to none but those who have been born of citizens since the 4th of July, 1776.
Few people know who David Ramsay was, and the role he played during the formative years of the United States. Ramsay figured very prominently. Among other skills, he was a prolific historical author of the American Revolution. A few years after the Constitution was ratified, Ramsay wrote a dissertation explaining the means for acquiring citizenship in the U.S. during and after the revolution. 

Although Ramsay's words have virtually been forgotten over the past two-hundred years, his dissertation should be more widely read since his comments shed light on Barack Obama's citizenship status. Although Obama was born in Hawaii, his father was not a U.S. citizen. Thus Ramsay's statements give credence to those who question Obama's eligibility because he holds dual citizenship with the U.K.  Even Obama's website admits:  "Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen (by virtue of being born in Hawaii) and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC) by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UKC."  In a nutshell:  Barack Obama is a Citizen, but he is not a natural born Citizen.

Learn more about Dr. Ramsay here.

A Dissertation On The Manner Of Acquiring The Character And Privileges Of A Citizen Of The United States
By Dr. David Ramsay, 1789

Ramsay 1789 Dissertation on Citizenship

Final note:  For those who tout the 14th Amendment as "solving" the question of Obama's citizenship status, read the amendment again, and notice that it does not mention the precise term "natural born"; it only mentions "citizen".  Next, acquaint yourself with the history behind the 14th Amendment.

4 comments:

  1. Of note is that the David Ramsay material has been published for several months on the Mario Apuzzo website and is incorporated in the Kerchner et al litigation.

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  2. There is absolutely nothing "uncovered" - David Ramsay and his dissertation did not have to be located. It(this material) has been readily available at the stroke of your keyboard through many, many Universities' online accessible libraries/archives And if you happened to have held on to or pilfered a copy of ;-) one of your grammar school history books from the 1970's you can read all about DR and the William Smith affair Unfortunately, The Obscurantists will and I imagine , already have, dismissed this as a political stunt by Ramsay etc. We all know the truth; that ARTICLE II natural born citizen(ship) enjoins a sole allegiance at birth but unless, it seems, we dig up one of the Founders/Framers themselves to scream these very words from the highest mountain top we are spinning our wheels. The average moron in the street even if receptive to the notion cannot get past their petty concerns and biases to even begin to be able to formulate a response

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  3. Oh & btw The 14th Amendment DOES "solve" B.O. Jr's citizenship status. It finishes him off. The key word: 'JURISDICTION'

    IF, INDEED, THE SON, & PERHAPS EVEN IF NOT, SINCE HE PUBLICLY CLAIMS B.OBAMA Sr AS HIS LEGAL FATHER ANYWAY---THE USURPER WAS NOT.....I REPEAT...NOT.."SUBJECT TO THE FULL & COMPLETE JURISDICTION OF THE UNITED STATES GOV'T AT THE TIME OF HIS BIRTH"
    IN THE IMMORTAL WORDS OF OL' LYMAN(TRUMBULL):
    "WHAT DO WE MEAN BY 'COMPLETE JURISDICTION THEREOF?'
    NOT OWING ALLEGIANCE TO ANYONE ELSE. THAT IS WHAT IT MEANS."

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  4. Jtx, and where do you think Mario Apuzzo got the Ramsay Dissertation? He got it from UR. Stop acting like Apuzzo and Kerchner did everything. You'd be very surprised where they got MUCH of the information they USE.

    I love the way you guys fluff research off as if this stuff was to be found anywhere. Why didn't any of you find it before UR did? Oh wait, you didn't and neither did Apuzzo.

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