tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2900607157435934187.post7653783425712320927..comments2023-11-03T11:03:34.233-05:00Comments on Jefferson's Rebels: SMRSTRAUSS: The Total Reveal & Their Tangled Web | by EricaThunderpawsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2900607157435934187.post-51834905142695678412011-01-01T13:41:29.415-06:002011-01-01T13:41:29.415-06:00EXCELLENT! I am glad that you gave this informatio...EXCELLENT! I am glad that you gave this information out. The SOB threatened me because he didn't like my views on Obama and I refused to stop questioning the eleigability issue. The only way I could get him to stop harassing me was to threaten him with arrest.TheMunzhttp://themunz.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2900607157435934187.post-46085148935285555022010-12-27T06:38:45.453-06:002010-12-27T06:38:45.453-06:00Private...Private...Private...Private...Private......Private...Private...Private...Private...Private...Private...<br /><br />I use the 'private' as I have in the past with Leo Donofrio when disusing strategies and applications of Law.<br /><br />You may remember me, SLCraig, as the person who pursued a case through the Courts seeking the definition of the Constitutional idiom of natural born Citizen, insofar as citizenship is concerned.<br /><br />Although the case naturally failed on the issue of standing it provided me experience in the 'due process system' as used by the courts and has put a number of Judges on record with outrageous 'dicta'.<br /><br />But while that was going on I pursued an 'administrative' avenue where I could find 'standing' . I did. I have refiled, having exhausted ALL administrative means of achieving a remedy.<br /><br />I am most interested in having you review the filing and critique and opine as so few people understand that in the 1st instance, it is a 'citizenship question'.<br /><br />Below is the 'scribed' link, but I would happily send it to you in any formate that would be useful to you. Also below is a link to a small forum I keep open and my email address.<br /><br />I am contemplating a filing 'Motion Leave to File 'Notice of Adjudicative Facts' in the effort to keep the Court constrained to the pertinent period of time and Documents to search. That is not published yet and I am hoping it would be something you would look at also.<br /><br />http://www.scribd.com/doc/45620056/USDC ... -10-1345-c<br /><br />http://www.nbcfund.com/chatforum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=918&start=20<br /><br />Thanks<br /><br />slcraigre@aol.comSlcraigrehttp://nbcfund.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2900607157435934187.post-24741075693131965442010-05-27T21:28:06.924-05:002010-05-27T21:28:06.924-05:00Good stuff. I did my own research on this issue o...Good stuff. I did my own research on this issue on my blog last year. I came to the conclusion that it was the shadow senator but you seem to have dug even further.<br /><br />http://www.reboottherepublic.com/blog/currentevents/i-just-kod-an-obama-bot-o-bot-on-the-birth-certificate-issue/Jericho McCainhttp://www.reboottherepublic.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2900607157435934187.post-25304777483285734932010-04-15T15:31:34.224-05:002010-04-15T15:31:34.224-05:00This is an amazing piece of journalism--I never wo...This is an amazing piece of journalism--I never work this hard on my blog :-)<br /><br />I've been getting a lot of comments from "TellerIP" but there's no way to get the IP address (that I know of) since it just clicks over to a Blogger profile with no information. Last year it was smrstrauss, then ohio, now I wonder if this is still Paul (or maybe Ann)? They're as annoying as knats at a picnic.Linda Starrhttp://lgstarr.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2900607157435934187.post-88668785085967461462010-03-25T20:57:45.769-05:002010-03-25T20:57:45.769-05:00Qwertyman,
You said: "It's nice to know...Qwertyman,<br /><br />You said: "It's nice to know that you are taking the high road and refraining from possibly taking an old man and exposing him to public ridicule from members of a movement that regularly call for the execution of their opponents, encourage military coup d'etats against a democratically elected government, and regularly issue death threats against the President."<br /><br />There is no doubt that there are people on the right who subscribe to extreme rhetoric, but exactly the same can be said of the left. Never let it be said that the left is peopled by angels. Far from it.<br /><br />Left-Wing Extremism: The Current Threat<br />http://www.osti.gov/bridge/purl.cover.jsp?purl=/780410-SHVVvq/native/<br /><br />There's plenty of evil behavior to go around on both sides of the aisle.<br /><br />So, after this recognition of weaknesses on both sides, the more important questions is, where do we go from here?EricaThunderpawshttp://jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2900607157435934187.post-73402498352010116062010-03-25T18:23:29.604-05:002010-03-25T18:23:29.604-05:00"In my view, it’s a mistake to lump those who..."In my view, it’s a mistake to lump those who focus on the birth certificate with those who focus on constitutional definitions"<br /><br />I don't think it is a mistake. In my experience, there is an almost 1:1 ratio of people who have doubted the truth of the birth certificate posted online and those who want to define natural born citizen in such a way that Obama is excluded. If you are an exception and have consistently stated that Obama was born in Hawaii and that you have no doubts about that, then you are by far the exceptional case when it comes to somebody believing that Obama is constitutionally ineligible for office.<br /><br />"You are correct that Dr. Conspiracy allows opponents, including attorney Mario Apuzzo, to post on his site. However, there will never be a meeting of the minds."<br /><br />Again you shift goalposts. So now you do admit that there are multiple websites that allow birthers or other persons who doubt President Obama's eligibility for office, but instead you now argue that your point stands because "there's no meeting of the minds." That's an extremely vague phrase that can be defined any way you want it to. It's a meaningless phrase that only seems to mean that you don't count it because you don't like the tone of the sitemaster. Of course, I sincerely doubt that there's any website opposed to birther arguments that you would like the tone of. At its base, you are advocating a legal interpretation of natural born citizen that does not enjoy the support of a single judge, member of Congress, current law professor or constitutional scholar. You should expect some measure of disagreement when you advance arguments that have been rebutted many, many times with specific citations to multiple Supreme Court and other federal courts. <br /><br />You should perhaps just admit that you were wrong when you said that there are no sites opposed to birthers that allow birthers to post freely.<br /><br />"FYI, I believe I know Dr. C's identity"<br /><br />Good for you. It's nice to know that you are taking the high road and refraining from possibly taking an old man and exposing him to public ridicule from members of a movement that regularly call for the execution of their opponents, encourage military coup d'etats against a democratically elected government, and regularly issue death threats against the President.qwertymannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2900607157435934187.post-31555740867750133092010-03-25T05:25:44.359-05:002010-03-25T05:25:44.359-05:00Qwertyman,There are some conservative sites that I...Qwertyman,<br><br>There are some conservative sites that I spend little or no time viewing because, like you, I don't appreciate the hyperbole, just as I don’t appreciate it on the Daily Kos, Huffington Post, et al. <br><br>You call me a “birther,” but that is really a misnomer. I do not support the tactics of Taitz or Berg or Keyes. They have destroyed the credibility of those of us who are focused on the constitutional definition of the term "natural born Citizen” as it applies to dual citizenship. Their foolish antics have destroyed the credibility of everyone who questions Obama's eligibility. <br><br>In my view, it’s a mistake to lump those who focus on the birth certificate with those who focus on constitutional definitions, but then that is EXACTLY what Obama wants to happen. The worst thing that could happen to Obama is for the media to actually report that there is more than one reason to challenge Obama’s eligibility. Of course, they’re not going to do that, because contemporary journalists are missionaries for Obama; they are not journalists in the true sense of the word.<br><br>You are correct that Dr. Conspiracy allows opponents, including attorney Mario Apuzzo, to post on his site. However, there will never be a meeting of the minds. In spite of this, Dr. C's site does not appeal to me because he uses the word "conspiracy" in the site title as well as his own moniker. That tells me all I need to know. One doesn't have to believe in a conspiracy to think that Obama's dual citizenship disqualifies him to serve as President. That is a question of LAW, which can only be answered by the court, not by hounding the Hawaii Department of Health. <br><br>FYI, I believe I know Dr. C's identity, but I don't feel the need to out him for three reasons. First, because of his advanced age (that's not a recent picture of him). Second, because of the service he has given to his community, even if it is a profoundly left-wing community. Third, because he isn't blanketing the internet with a team of obots who repeat Obama's talking points, and in many cases stating outright lies. He’s an old man with left-wing views, and he’s entitled to them, even if I profoundly disagree.<br><br>It’s okay to disagree, but it’s not okay to callously lie.<br><br>P.S. I have a life outside of this blog, so I may seem slow in responding to your comments.EricaThunderpawshttp://jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2900607157435934187.post-7252583609746685932010-03-25T01:27:15.472-05:002010-03-25T01:27:15.472-05:00Ridicule? If that's your standard, then even s...Ridicule? If that's your standard, then even some place like here is completely unwelcoming. When I posted on RSoL (before Phil made it pretty clear we were unwelcome) I was told I should kill myself, that I was going to hell, threatened physically, accused of hating the Constitution, of not being a Christian, of being a Marxist, a paid blogger, a Maoist and a traitor to the U.S. all for saying that there is not a single current legal scholar that agrees with the birthers' interpretations of the natural born citizen clause. You threatened to ban a guy for basically saying just that. Wouldn't any o-bot be a fool to stick around here?<br /><br />As for AuntieMadder, what a typical birther tactic: make a categorical statement (there are no anti-birther sites that welcome birthers), get called out and shown that the statement is a blatant falsehood, and then shift the goalposts without admitting error.<br /><br />"Can't you come up with a second one from your side of the aisle that would allow birthers to comment?"<br /><br />Sure, ObamaConspiracy.<br /><br />However, since you are a birther I will expect you to ignore this factual statement and pretend to continue to believe that there are no anti-birther sites that allow birther comments.qwertymannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2900607157435934187.post-82506285860895432532010-03-24T19:09:15.621-05:002010-03-24T19:09:15.621-05:00Qwertyman,
You're certainly right that Politi...Qwertyman,<br /><br />You're certainly right that Politijab doesn't ban people. However, as I said previously, ridicule is the name of the game in that forum. Any conservative who attempts to post there will be verbally abused, whether the topic is eligiblity, healthcare, Sarah Palin, tea party protests, or virtually any topic. Conservatives would have to be masochists to hang around there for long.EricaThunderpawshttp://jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2900607157435934187.post-14789984548435443562010-03-24T16:24:55.294-05:002010-03-24T16:24:55.294-05:00You get around the blogosphere quite a bit, qwerty...You get around the blogosphere quite a bit, qwertyman, at both liberal blogs as well as the blogs of conservatives and Constitutionalists. Other than your posted comment here, I know for sure that you've left many comments in defense of Obamao at the Right Side of Life blog. It seems that I've seen your handle at other blogs representing this side of the aisle but at which ones I'm not sure at the moment. Perhaps at American Thinker?<br /><br />Other than Politijab, which appears to be in need of life support, what other liberal sites that you visit welcome comments from so-called birthers? I mean, come on. We know that at least two from the right side allow you to comment. Can't you come up with a second one from your side of the aisle that would allow birthers to comment?AuntieMaddernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2900607157435934187.post-91652906611917522202010-03-24T16:15:33.020-05:002010-03-24T16:15:33.020-05:00"I challenge you to name a single obot site t..."I challenge you to name a single obot site that genuinely welcomes people who disagree with you about Obama’s eligiblity."<br /><br />Politijab has to my knowledge never banned a birther. The admins of the site have posted over and over again that they welcome the arguments of any birther who wishes to participate.<br /><br />-qwertymanqwertymannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2900607157435934187.post-59125928948492488602010-03-24T13:54:17.900-05:002010-03-24T13:54:17.900-05:00FYI. For inexplicable reasons, some comments are ...FYI. For inexplicable reasons, some comments are failing to show up on this thread, even though I know for a fact that they were automatically approved by Disqus. I keep refreshing the page, but the comments still don't show. There may be a temporary glitch when Disqus synchronizes with Blogspot. I'll keep rechecking this page to see if they appear. If they don't, I'll contact Disqus.EricaThunderpawshttp://jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2900607157435934187.post-68139138706040031432010-03-24T13:15:04.091-05:002010-03-24T13:15:04.091-05:00What you said was: "So far as I can see, the ...What you said was: "So far as I can see, the fact that smrstrauss has supported Democrats and Obama has no effect on the facts of this matter."<br /><br />True, but it shows their motives. On second thought, however, their motives also have no effect on the facts. If there is a birth certificate and its facts were confirmed, then there was a birth certificate and its facts were confirmed. The same holds for the law on Natural Born Citizen. If all US-born citizens are Natural Born Citizens, then the motives of whomever says it are irrelevant. <br /><br />Have you shown that Obama has a birth certificate and that it was confirmed? Have you shown that all US-born citizens are Natural Born?kcenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2900607157435934187.post-78443792015079103052010-03-24T09:01:37.545-05:002010-03-24T09:01:37.545-05:00Esquire1,
I challenge you to name a single obot s...Esquire1,<br /><br />I challenge you to name a single obot site that genuinely welcomes people who disagree with you about Obama’s eligiblity. To the best of my knowledge, no such site exists on the planet! Certainly not at the Daily Kos, MoveOn.org, the Huffington Post, Organizing for America, Politijab, and a host of other left-wing sites. No, those sites are riddled with foul language, ridicule, and arrogance bordering on narcisism. So how dare you lecture me about openness? Why should ANYONE who thinks Obama is ineligible welcome YOUR thoughts and YOUR ideas in this forum when you don’t welcome ours in your fora? <br /><br />If I want to limit discussion in any way on this blog, that is my free choice, just as you and your ilk have practiced with great glee on your obot sites. I will make my decision on a case-by-case basis.<br /><br />As for political contributions, they are not a distraction as you suggest. They reveal the motives for becoming a willful tool of the Obama administration. Employer connections also reveal motives and a possible means of support of one kind or another.<br /><br />As to your first remark, let’s just say that your side was the first to unmask your opponents, so don't get sanctimonious on me. Are you suggesting the rest of us shouldn’t follow YOUR lead in that regard?<br /><br />Finally, your closing remarks sound eerily like those used by the Strauss’s. Furthermore, those remarks have been rebutted ad infinitum elsewhere, so I won’t waste my time responding to them here. <br /><br />Rest assured I will be watching your submissions closely, and if I feel so inclined, you will also get banned. It's up to you.EricaThunderpawshttp://jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2900607157435934187.post-42239454924884636122010-03-24T07:47:06.209-05:002010-03-24T07:47:06.209-05:00Since birthers post on Obot sites, do you suppose ...Since birthers post on Obot sites, do you suppose that the Obots will start unmasking the birthers who post?<br /><br />Are you saying that you don't want Obots to post on your site? If so, why not say so, then we all would know that you only want to give one side of the question. <br /><br />So far as I can see, the fact that smrstrauss has supported Democrats and Obama has no effect on the facts of this matter. If a birther were to be monetary supporter of conservative candidates, that would not affect the facts either. And the fact that someone, if you have the right one, worked for IDC, doesn't affect the facts either. <br /><br />So, this discussion of smrstrauss distracts from the issues. As you say, there are two issues, whether Obama was born in Hawaii (which is proven by his birth certificate, which was confirmed by the officials) and whether he would still not be a Natural Born Citizen despite being born in Hawaii due to his father not being a citizen.<br /><br />Since Obama was confirmed by the US Congress unanimously and sworn in by the Chief Justice of the United States, it is likely that most legal scholars believe that being born in the USA is sufficient to make one a Natural Born Citizen.Esquire1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2900607157435934187.post-2141238737718930632010-03-24T05:34:27.554-05:002010-03-24T05:34:27.554-05:00you're a reprehensible coward.....very, very d...you're a reprehensible coward.....very, very dim....you'll get yours if you keep threatening people.......show your tiny person..........sad, desperate, alone in your basement.....I hope whomever this is whom you're threatening by revealing personal information says hi to you in person....we'll see you threatening you are then fucknut.barneynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2900607157435934187.post-40849809525047564022010-03-24T03:57:32.214-05:002010-03-24T03:57:32.214-05:00Dualer,
This case has been addressed at length by...Dualer, <br />This case has been addressed at length by Attorney Mario Apuzzo. If you want to read the rest of his comments, follow the link. You might also use Apuzzo's search box (midway down the sidebar) to find further commentary on the same case.<br><br><a href="http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/04/obama-president-of-us-is-currently-also_07.html#uds-search-results" rel="nofollow">http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/04/obama-preside...</a><br><br>" While me may disagree as to the consequences to one who would aspire to be President of the United States and Commander in Chief of the Military, I am happy to see that you agree with me that Obama is still a British citizen today.<br><br> Perkins v. Elg dealt with whether the Elg child lost her U.S. birth citizenship status because of the acts of her parents and not because of anything she elected to do or some treaty or Act of Congress. The Court starts by emphasizing that Elg is a born citizen of the United States under the 14th Amendment a' la Wong Kim Ark.<br><br> On the question of dual nationality, the Court only said that a U.S born citizen who later in life acquires another nationality through the parents (making that person a dual national) does not lose his/her U.S. citizenship by that act alone.<br><br> I am not contending that Obama lost his U.S. citizenshp at any time (assuming he was born in the U.S.) because of his dual nationality. Hence, the Elg decision is not applicable. The Elg decision has absolutely nothing to do with what an Article II "natural born Citizen" is and whether dual nationality at birth and at present disqualifies such a person from being President because as such that person cannot be an Article II "natural born Citizen." This latter issue has nothing to do with losing born U.S. citizenship but rather with whether one has the necessary type of citizenship to be eligible under Article II to be President.<br><br> Also, both the Elg and Steinkauler children were born in the U.S. to parents who were U.S. citizens at the time of birth. That made those children Article II "natural born Citizens" and eligible to be President. The Court simply said that those children do not lose their U.S. birthright citizenship simply because their parents in later years and when the children are minors cause them to acquire some other nationality. What was the central point is that those children were born in the U.S. to U.S. citizen parents and by election did not retain any foreign citizensip upon reaching their years of majority. The same result obtained for the other children commented on by the Court who were born in the U.S. to foreign parents, except these children were declared "native citizens" or just "citizens" under the 14th Amendment with no comment that they were eligible to be President.<br><br> The Elg Court acted to protect a U.S. born child's right of election as to what nationality he or she wants to be, a right that it said belongs to the child upon reaching the age of majority.<br><br> It is interesting to note that Obama, upon reaching the age of majority at no time renounced his British Citizenship and therefore continues to have that citizenship while occupying the office of President."<br><br> Mario Apuzzo, Esq.<br> April 8, 2009 7:33 PMEricaThunderpawshttp://jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2900607157435934187.post-13202382814700120752010-03-24T03:57:29.782-05:002010-03-24T03:57:29.782-05:00I do not think you have the right to scream fire i...I do not think you have the right to scream fire in theater. I think with free speach comes a responsibility to tell the truth about things. We have laws of disclosure ie; bank disclosure etc. Why not a content disclosure? I dont know I'm frustrated with these people and this is just talk. I wish they wouldn't have to lie. I am not "supportive" of anyone speaking lies and trash like these people. I wouldn't lay my life on the line for them as I did once before.Rick M.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2900607157435934187.post-52375069044135233532010-03-24T03:29:34.359-05:002010-03-24T03:29:34.359-05:00You're wrong. The issue is dual citizenship at...You're wrong. The issue is dual citizenship at birth. Perkins v. Elg (1939) established that the actions of a minor's parents do not effect the Natural Born Citizen status of the minor.dualernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2900607157435934187.post-82981219317371495772010-03-24T02:56:55.379-05:002010-03-24T02:56:55.379-05:00Presidential eligibility 101 A simple citizen can ...Presidential eligibility 101 A simple citizen can not be President. A naturalized citizen can not be President. A native born citizen can not be President. A person born a British Subject can never ever be President even if they were also born an American citizen. A United States President must be a Natural Born American Citizen. That is born of BLOOD & SOIL. The Blood of both parents being American Citizens at the time of ones birth and that birth on American Soil. So we know that for a fact BHO was born a British Subject because his father was NEVER an American citizen and was a British Subject under the British Nationality Act of 1948 that says any child born of his British father no matter where that birth takes place will be born a British Subject. So! Being born a British Subject and having only 1 American parent makes 2 reasons why he can never be President. Add to that the fact he has never proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was born in Hawaii and the fact his baby mother was under age at the time of his birth to transfer American Citizenship to her newborn son we have 2 positive reason to prove he is not eligible and 2 more possible situations that also show he is ineligible. Now if he actually became a citizen of Indonesia as his school records show then that is reason #5 why he is ineligible. That's 5 against his eligibility and not 1 reason supporting he is eligible. Not one hospital in Hawaii has records of his birth. Old Microfiche proves nothing they can be faked easily and the Nordak twins are missing from the plate Obama appears on. That could have been faked. N comes right before O in the alphabet take out the Nordak twins add Obama and you have the fix in. Everything screams something is wrong and nothing says he is a Natural Born American Citizen. There is a slim chance he could be a simple citizen but a simple citizen can never become President. Test tomorrow at 10am. Study well class your future depends on you passing this test! So does ours!old1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2900607157435934187.post-49710338039258388882010-03-24T02:38:58.564-05:002010-03-24T02:38:58.564-05:00Some have argued that we had TWO ineligible candid...Some have argued that we had TWO ineligible candidates on the ballot, one of whom was/is an American hero who endured unspeakable horrors at the hands of the Viet Cong. How could we possibly deny him his chance at becoming President? Some say McCain was born in a Colon hospital which was NOT on the American military base in the Panama Canal. If true, this would mean McCain, also, is not a natural born Citizen, according to the intent of our founders. If this is true, it's ironic that these two candidates would be running against each other in the same presidential election. McCain had the legal right to challenge Obama's eligibility during the election, but he didn't raise a finger. Why?<br /><br />After you read this, you might have a clue:<br />http://zapem.wordpress.com/2009/01/11/obama-knew-he-wasnt-eligible-for-potus/EricaThunderpawshttp://jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2900607157435934187.post-73506191368031819682010-03-24T02:37:07.993-05:002010-03-24T02:37:07.993-05:00Jacksparrow--interesting moniker. Have you been w...Jacksparrow--interesting moniker. Have you been watching those pirate movies?<br /><br />I think we have a language gap. It's a little difficult to follow your train of thought. You say you are a former Indonesian. Are you in the States now, and why are you interested in this topic?EricaThunderpawshttp://jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2900607157435934187.post-71800777814673690982010-03-24T02:35:06.471-05:002010-03-24T02:35:06.471-05:00Dr. cathy,
I am certainly aware that the Indonesi...Dr. cathy,<br /><br />I am certainly aware that the Indonesian connection represents yet another argument for Obama's ineligibility. This is an area that I have not personally studied, so I can't refute or agree with your thesis. Undoubtedly there are more reasons to believe Obama is ineligible than to believe that he is, aided in large part by Obama's desperate need to keep his personal history under wraps. Anyone who hires a battery of attorneys to keep this information under wraps has something to hide. Are there any journalists out there who haven't drunk Obama's lobotomizing Kool-Aid?<br /><br />Like you, I am not chasing the birth certificate. Unlike you, I have focused on the definition of NBC as it relates to Obama rather than his adoption by Soetoro. Frankly, I don't care which argument wins the day. What matters is proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that Obama should never have had his name placed on the ballot. To that end, I am one of many people who have filed complaints of election fraud with state AGs using jbjd's model form. If you missed it, read "Shalifa Williamson: Witness to Election Fraud in the 2008 General Election", http://jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com/2010/03/shalifa-williamson-witness-to-election.htmlEricaThunderpawshttp://jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2900607157435934187.post-28617340304555955772010-03-24T02:26:04.470-05:002010-03-24T02:26:04.470-05:00roop, egregious NOT egrigiousroop, egregious NOT egrigiousdr_cathynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2900607157435934187.post-82469630986551647752010-03-24T02:22:58.914-05:002010-03-24T02:22:58.914-05:00I seem to have more to say.
For all of you folks...I seem to have more to say. <br /><br />For all of you folks who want justice by removing the fraud peacefully who pretends to be our POTUS, stop the fox hunt. The scent you have been sent on has nothing, nothing, nothing to do with where in the hell he was born. For all I care, he could have been born in Alaska or Tennessee or Kentucky. I do not care.<br /><br />What has ALWAYS mattered is his adoption. When one is adopted their original birth certificate is sealed. Just ask any adoptee and they will confirm this for you. <br /><br />When Stanley Ann signed parental rights of Obama over to Lolo Soetoro, Barry became and Indonesian citizen. Get it? This simple act relinquished, erased, snuffed out, obliterated any and all connection to the US, Period!<br /><br />Thus, when he returned to the US as we've been told but have never been able to verify, but, based on what we've been told, he returned to Hawaii and attended Panahou School. Great! Good for him! <br /><br />However, many speculate whether his grandparents had him naturalized. This means, if they did then at best he is a 14th amd citizen and at worst he's an illegal alien = no citizenship status. <br /><br />jbjd figured all of this out over a year ago, but people went chasing after the birth certificate and where in the hell he was born! Well, wake up, you've been duped. Silly you. Get over it and start paying attention to jbjd's work. Why?<br /><br />Because, she took the evidence presented by Obama to justify his supposed "citizenship" to get on our state ballots. Our Sec'y of States took the DNC nomination forms and their Convention leaders at their word. Why? B/c they are not necessarily required to check the candidate's eligibility. I think it is NJ's SoS that is required by law to verify eligibility but don't quote me on that. <br /><br />So, our state ballots and election, one that was paid for by all of us taxpayers, had an ineligible candidate on our state ballot. B/c the DNC and RNC are trusted entities no one bothered to test for eligibility. Why would they. I mean Pelosi signed the Cert of Nom forms, right, so why would the SoS EVER doubt her? This is what the DNC was counting on. Who would ever question the honesty or integrity of the Speaker of the House of Delegates? the answer, jbjd. <br /><br />but Taitz, Creep, Berg and et al have taken your good intentions, twisted them, and re focused you in a direction that will NEVER, NEVER, NEVER produce results b/c Obama's birth certificate is SEALED!!! due to his adoption by a citizen of Indonesia!<br /><br />Please, stop the birth certificate distraction. jbjd is the real mccoy and has done tremendous work to get you to take action in your state to right this egrigious wrong!dr_cathynoreply@blogger.com